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+1 LBS f**ked up a promo get over it...
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Quote Originally Posted by steve24:
Again such a strong link between nudity and sex? why is that?
Seriously? You have to ask that?! There is a link between nudity and sex because we are almost always nude when having sex, but almost all other times we have clothes on in the presence of other people/non-sexual partners. Correlation does not always equal causation, but the link in undeniable.
If they were selling bikes as sex toys (they are in a red light district, and I'm sure someone has tried it), yes I can see how nearly nude models would be a salient feature of a promotions strategy. As you said - context is everything.
Your views are sexist and chauvinistic. They represent attitudes that are out of step with contemporary Australia. This isn't my opinion is a fact
You bet you they did. And if you want to know why here's the back story: http://mzguided.com/.
You bet you they did. And if you want to know why here's the back story: http://mzguided.com/
... And in response to you lot who replied in this thread claiming that it was either tasteful or trouble about nothing, Let me explain it to you. Your opinion, is exactly that, your opinion; and you know how much its worth? Sweet fuck all. Your views are sexist and chauvinistic. They represent attitudes that are out of step with contemporary Australia. This isn't my opinion is a fact. A fact proved the groundswell of public anger which caused Simon and TR to eat this big hunk of humble pie. And FWIW this not a media stunt that will do any good at all. The adage, "any publicity is good publicity" does not ring true, and this is case in point.
Seriously people, 12 pages of comments on this?
Go ride your bikes.
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+1 LBS f**ked up a promo get over it...
Don't blow into a conversation on a cycling forum and tell people their opinion isn't valid and they should ride their bikes. A, it's a fucking forum to discuss topics relating to our scene and B; you look like a total spoonhead by posting in a thread saying we should get out and ride our bikes. Irony much?
Now you're making me laugh.
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I still think this is a major over reaction by everyone......get back to riding bikes!
and fetch us beer
Really? Why's that?
Do you mean "Please explain?". :-D
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In our australian (americanised) culture people recognise nudity as sexual and I don't see a problem with that.
I guess the other end of the spectrum is Muslim culture where women showing their hair (and sometime faces) is considered sexual. Here in Australia we're all too ready to whinge about how Muslim men must have no self control if they need to cover their women to remove any temptation - but really is it that different to getting all offended about seeing women dressed in paint? The idea of being 'dressed' is a matter of perception and it's perfectly valid to argue that being covered in paint is just as 'dressed' as being covered in lycra.
I once attended a fashion show in Sydney where the (seemingly nude) models were 'dressed' in verbal descriptions of what they were wearing. The designer was making the point that being dressed can mean any number of things. People seemed to enjoy the show and there were no complaints.
Body painting has always been considered an artistic proposition; people who categorise it as pornography are being very conservative in the context of present day western culture.
But the difference is that the designer had a point to make at that show.I once attended a fashion show in Sydney where the (seemingly nude) models were 'dressed' in verbal descriptions of what they were wearing. The designer was making the point that being dressed can mean any number of things. People seemed to enjoy the show and there were no complaints.
Body painting has always been considered an artistic proposition; people who categorise it as pornography are being very conservative in the context of present day western culture.
Don't blow into a conversation on a cycling forum and tell people their opinion isn't valid and they should ride their bikes. A, it's a fucking forum to discuss topics relating to our scene and B; you look like a total spoonhead by posting in a thread saying we should get out and ride our bikes. Irony much?
I guess the other end of the spectrum is Muslim culture where women showing their hair (and sometime faces) is considered sexual. Here in Australia we're all too ready to whinge about how Muslim men must have no self control if they need to cover their women to remove any temptation - but really is it that different to getting all offended about seeing women dressed in paint?
These guys were at the you yangs last weekend doind Specialized demos. Sadly there were no female staff there.