Calvin27
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dy/dx = 0 at a local maximum, so the gradient must decrease approaching zero at the top...Top of the climb is the steepest, i say black you say white, whatever.. ignore on..
dy/dx = 0 at a local maximum, so the gradient must decrease approaching zero at the top...Top of the climb is the steepest, i say black you say white, whatever.. ignore on..
To answer your question - I'm a casual rider and don't really have a strong preference. I'm unlikely to get too serious regular trips to Lysterfield or You Yangs etc. I live inner east and am happy to ride some single track near the river. Maybe once or twice a year I will get back up to Bright and ride around there (again some of the flatter stuff but no more than the intermediate trails). Also commuting to work couple days a week. So none of that is the serious hardcore smashing down trails and over jumps at full speed that many here do. I don't so much bust a nut to ride rather just like getting outdoors in general. Anything that achieves that is good for me.@birdmanoz what style of riding are you into? I'm not talking what type of vehicle, but you wake up and are busting a nut to spin some wheels...what style is your go to? At the end of the ride when you're sitting back espresso in hand slinging shit on your mates and bragging about the ride, what were you doing on the ride? Because when you guys are disregarding the weight penalty I have to wonder what your style is so I can understand how weight plays into your daily.
For me it is going to have been some sort of gravity - popping jumps, railing berms, and sending drops...all the biggest too, I am the storm front of rampagecrankworksslopestyle...so in those situations extra weight sucks the bags. Not just because I'm too weak to lift it over my head at the end and shout out in triumph either. Trying to manoeuvre a weighty bike through a fast dynamic trail is not fun, I even notice the difference between 2 of my bikes that are only about 1kg apart. As I've mentioned previously these are the type of trails that I am encountering the new breed of e-bikes on.
I had a go on one and was expecting more like a motor bike feel but it was quite different, it was sort of an over dampened suspension and less lively feel. I felt a bit reluctant to lean the bike over into the slow corners as much as I would have on a normal bike. I can only assume that e-bikes will become better over time and most likely a lot faster.The new range of bikes are integrating the battery in the frame and keeping weight quite low. Bosch powertube and others have similar in frame solutions. Also looks a little cleaner. But there is no denying the extra 8 to 10 kg takes some getting use to and may not be appropriate for all trails. I've ridden mine around some of the yarra single track up and down. Some bits a pretty tight but I find the 27.5 a bit easier than my 29. You feel the weight but i am getting use to it and changing riding accordingly. If you read about the guys (and watch) that are actually quite skilled at normal MTB's they seem to adjust and make it work. My skill level is not high enough on normal MTB to determine difference in capability between the two. But in terms of momentum on flat or uphill - as heavy as the eMTB is - it moves very easily on any mode (unsurprisingly). They really are a lot of fun. I only happened to buy one because I had some time to kill a month or so ago and test rode a trek powerfly. Same Bosch motor. I wasn't expecting much but was blown away. Opens many opportunities for more casual riders.
You do care otherwise you wouldn't have bothered muting my account (thanks for restoring it!). My concern for everyone else now is that this isn't supposed to be an oppressed dictatorship where these types of decisions are made on a whim or when your personal feelings get hurt.. especially when it's not equitable. I assume the likes of Poodle has never been muted or disabled (do you even read his garbage?).Maybe take it as a hint that we don't appreciate your aggressive attitude and constant nitpicking trying to start a shitfight and that if you don't just chill a bit we'll ban your account and any you make after that. We don't care what you think about e-bikes, we care about the way you conduct yourself.
If you've got a problem with the way people are here, the way people think about ebikes, the way product reviews are done and the way we manage this website, just go to another website where you will be happier. If you can get along on this website without constantly pushing against the grain we'd be happy with that too.
Up to you.
PS - poodle, appreciate if you'd stop atagonising as well.
Flow-rider is being condescending and nitpicky.. MUTE HIS ACCOUNT!... last time I checked I lived in Australia.
What if you're a hardcore MTB'er with high skill levels but only ride casually (like me )?? Fitness has never been apart of riding for me. It's always been about fun. Surely that's the perspective of most people? Again.. data would be greatly insightful here.So it seems two segments of the potential market for eMTB.
1. Hardcore MTBr's that focus as much on serious fitness as they do on riding element. They also want light bikes because skill levels will generally be greater and they are easier to move around. These would be weekly riders over several years including some mountains.
2. Casual MTB's that do some MTB from time to time but not all the time. Fitness is smaller part...
Like most things capability is normally directly proportional to time invested. Bike fitness is also generally proportional to time invested. Commonsense.What if you're a hardcore MTB'er with high skill levels but only ride casually (like me )?? Fitness has never been apart of riding for me. It's always been about fun. Surely that's the perspective of most people? Again.. data would be greatly insightful here.
I'd ask you the same question I posed to the bird man (will have to find out if heikes birds the same way Richard Morecroft likes bats or if he is in fact Michael Kenton...), what type of riding floats your boat? What do you meam by high skill levels? These are ambiguous terms because for each of us they mean different things. If you could define them it may help some of us understand your perspective a little.What if you're a hardcore MTB'er with high skill levels but only ride casually (like me )??
You do care otherwise you wouldn't have bothered muting my account (thanks for restoring it!). My concern for everyone else now is that this isn't supposed to be an oppressed dictatorship where these types of decisions are made on a whim or when your personal feelings get hurt.. especially when it's not equitable. I assume the likes of Poodle has never been muted or disabled (do you even read his garbage?).
I'm not in here posting dick pics. I'm still on topic and giving the perspective of a mountain biker that also rides ebikes.. ?? Besides.. why is my attitude and nitpicking such a problem when you can simply click on the "ignore" button (according to Poodles)??
Also fix the "reCAPTCHA verification is loading." issue so I can create another account after you mute and throttle the speed of this one again.
Flow-rider is being condescending and nitpicky.. MUTE HIS ACCOUNT!
Ebikes are too heavy which make them ride like shit. We also live in Australia so Europe's experience and data on ebikes is irrelevant (maybe if we lived beneath the ocean?).
Who's become a softy in old ageMate, this isn’t a democracy, it’s a privately owned website that you access for free. The standards we set here are up to us and are not open to discussion.
So, this is the last post both you and I will make on the matter. Please take on board what has been said and just talk bikes and don’t go out of your way to look for arguments, please.
End of discussion, back onto to bikes.
There’s an ebike lurking in the shadows.Who's become a softy in old age
FIFY.Ideate's back.
It's a shame we lost ideate to this ridiculous thread. He contributed a lot to this site with his interesting hacks and he has offered to build wheels for more than one burner.FIFY.
Oh, is that what happened to him.... Wondered where he went.It's a shame we lost ideate to this ridiculous thread. He contributed a lot to this site with his interesting hacks and offered to build wheels for more than one burner.
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You might need to rework this so it makes sense. KIDDING!What do you meam by high skill levels? ..
bickie, if there is an issue with the site post it here. But as you already have an account not sure why it's still bothering you so much.Also admin, what's the point of blocking my IP (like you did today) when people have dynamic IP's and use VPN's? Seriously! Hurry up and fix your captcha sign up issue!
It's a problem because people like you can't create another account when admin decide to impose one of their deterrent measures such as slowing your account down or ip blocking (which they've tried on me since contributing to this thread). There's no sentimental loss so I don't know why they bother with me. There's clearly more important issues to attend to like the sign up process.. Or lack of. It's funny because when I ask people if they're on rotorburn out on the trail, the common answer is no but I've heard of it or come across something online. The rest say it's either shit, gone to shit recently (trading section) or no, never heard of it.bickie, if there is an issue with the site post it here. But as you already have an account not sure why it's still bothering you so much.
Strange reply as you're the one trying to create accounts not me, are you Hyena perhaps?It's a problem because people like you can't create another account when admin decide to impose one of their deterrent measures such as slowing your account down or ip blocking (which they've tried on me since contributing to this thread). There's no sentimental loss so I don't know why they bother with me. There's clearly more important issues to attend to like the sign up process.. Or lack of. It's funny because when I ask people if they're on rotorburn out on the trail, the common answer is no but I've heard of it or come across something online. The rest say it's either shit, gone to shit recently (trading section) or no, never heard of it.
Anyway, back on topic. If I had an ebike, I'd eat more pizza. Oh wait, I do so now I can enjoy riding my bike AND more pizza.