COVID-19: who’s going full doomsday prep on this?

Kerplunk said:
Yeah but you still have to listen to dissenting views even if you don’t like the source..
Unherd seem to have one agenda on covid but the two oxford guys are pretty straight down the line..
Click to expand...
its not a dissenting view, its just bullshit. Facts are not subject to opinions - you may have an opinion that trump is genius, but it doesn't make it so.

You can respect the right to have that opinion, but you dont need to respect the opinion.
 
From The Guardian:
It is going to be some more tough news, I am afraid. It looks like all businesses, other than the essential, are to be closed - that’s almost everything other than food, power and telecommunications. We are waiting for the official word, which is coming within the next 30 minutes, but we’ve been told to look at what New Zealand did during its stage four lockdown.
Click to expand...
What is the end game - what on earth is the end game?
 
Haakon said:
its not a dissenting view, its just bullshit. Facts are not subject to opinions - you may have an opinion that trump is genius, but it doesn't make it so.

You can respect the right to have that opinion, but you dont need to respect the opinion.
Click to expand...

Right, so you know better than 2 Oxford immunologists at the coal face? Get your head out of your arse..
 
An allegedly 'official' list of what is to closed that was sent to me actually leaves quite a few businesses open to trade, but no idea how legit it is.
You would not want to be a small business owner though.

It would be nice if we get the official word, it seems all work has stopped until companies know what they can do next
 
mike14 said:
An allegedly 'official' list of what is to closed that was sent to me actually leaves quite a few businesses open to trade, but no idea how legit it is.
You would not want to be a small business owner though.

It would be nice if we get the official word, it seems all work has stopped until companies know what they can do next
Click to expand...
Cabinet in Confidence, Open/Closed to On-Site Trade? If so I got the same one. Andrew's just referred to a "long-form list" passed to media so it seems legit.
 
leitch said:
Cabinet in Confidence, Open/Closed to On-Site Trade? If so I got the same one. Andrew's just referred to a "long-form list" passed to media so it seems legit.
Click to expand...

That's the one.

EDIT - to add, the construction restrictions he mentioned is just different enough to make me think this was an initial draft and they've backed off slightly in some areas
 
mike14 said:
EDIT - to add, the construction restrictions he mentioned is just different enough to make me think this was an initial draft and they've backed off slightly in some areas
Click to expand...
Quite possibly. Came to me through someone with construction industry contacts so it may have been circulated for peak/industry body comment first. Or it's just a really good fake and someone was incredibly bored yesterday.
 
Andrews is on the box now. Lots of reductions in numbers of workers on construction sites (max. 25% of workforce), serious increase in PPE and protocols in abbotoirs and reduced production. Can still do collect from Bunnings and home delivery ok for certain businesses.

Seems like a pragmatic move to restrict people from moving around so much, but with a trickle of economic activity.

edit: and he just mentioned significant changes in enforcement and penalties will be announced tomorrow.
 
Nambra said:
Andrews is on the box now.
Click to expand...
things are bad when they bring in hannibal lector for covid press conf. #shitisreal
365566
 
Kerplunk said:
Right, so you know better than 2 Oxford immunologists at the coal face? Get your head out of your arse..
Click to expand...

I know if they're featuring on websites like unheard, they're not likely credible. Especially if they're contradicting thousands of other immunologists - strikes me like Breitbart interviewing Lomborg on how CC isn't a problem...
 
Haakon said:
I know if they're featuring on websites like unheard, they're not likely credible. Especially if they're contradicting thousands of other immunologists - strikes me like Breitbart interviewing Lomborg on how CC isn't a problem...
Click to expand...
So - are you happy with where we are today?

I'm not.

I think our methods are flawed - not because of people deliberately doing the wrong thing, but we've not been in this place (pandemic) before...not so suddenly with so much human mobility.
 
hifiandmtb said:
So - are you happy with where we are today?

I'm not.

I think our methods are flawed - not because of people deliberately doing the wrong thing, but we've not been in this place (pandemic) before...not so suddenly with so much human mobility.
Click to expand...

i think we are making up as we go (although this has all been foreseen and planned for by experts, the handover teams even took the incoming trump team through the plans), as you say its uncharted territory. i also think its safe to ignore anything on a far right fringe website set up by daily telegraph pro Leave "journos"...
 
You can only be an expert with past experience. Those making decisions now are experts in their field (virology & healthcare), not experts in functional pandemic response.

Those two Oxford chaps are not right wing fringe.

Play the YT vid in the background, it's not something that will make you angry.
 
hifiandmtb said:
You can only be an expert with past experience. Those making decisions now are experts in their field (virology & healthcare), not experts in functional pandemic response.

Those two Oxford chaps are not right wing fringe.

Play the YT vid in the background, it's not something that will make you angry.
Click to expand...

ill give it a go. but there are experts in pandemic response involved around the world, including australia - such people exist.
 
hifiandmtb said:
You can only be an expert with past experience. Those making decisions now are experts in their field (virology & healthcare), not experts in functional pandemic response.

Those two Oxford chaps are not right wing fringe.

Play the YT vid in the background, it's not something that will make you angry.
Click to expand...
Experience makes you experienced, not an expert.
I’ve had a lot or riding experience.
That said, I haven’t watched it and aren’t necessarily disagreeing with you.
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top