GDonehue
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I think it is 7 DH spots and 7 4X spots
2007 Australian Worlds Team
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thecat
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But only one Chix. The question remains why isn't Foxy going?
roxy12
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rather disinheartening isn't it. Was hopeing to make it there myself next series.....obviously that isnt going to happen.
Has Ca or any other OFFICIAL shed any light on anything yet?
GDonehue
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No argument - so stop being a drip - we all know madill is quick and deserves his spot (the guy is flaming quick), but if we are arguing the point about the selection process and whether it is following the criteria then it could be argued that he got a spot for the same reasons foxy should have
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Little mr ronning, Why are you asking anyone to pull their heads in? All I have read hear are considered, well reasoned arguements why the selection process has let our domestic riders down. I dont know who you are and weather your trying to play devils advocate or not but at the moment your coming more like devils arse, so take some of your own advice and ...
On the otherhand, some of your points have been quite well made but you ruin it with Stupid comments like calling the National series half assed, so a guy called Filip Polc traveled half way round the world to race in a certain "half assed" series and is having his best ever season... hmmmm...
As for earning your stripes overseas, why? If someone is a good enough racer they should be picked on merit, Weather it be Foxy, Lloyd, Buchannon, Madill, Whoever. At the end of the day if the sport becomes to eliteist it will decline. Most people cant afford to spend thousands on a bike then thousands racing the National series then thousands more racing overseas. And because they cant, the logical thing to do now will be to miss the National series and save your pennys for overseas.
What this means is that the skill level at the national series will drop, young riders coming through will have less to measure themselves against, therefore they will not improve as fast, therefore Aussie will be further from the top of the podium, sounds promiseing aye?
Roxy has already mentioned in this thread how it's disinheartening for her knowing that whatever effort she puts into the next series could now be for nothing, it doesn't take many girls to decide the samething and dowm, down, down goes participation...
On the otherhand, some of your points have been quite well made but you ruin it with Stupid comments like calling the National series half assed, so a guy called Filip Polc traveled half way round the world to race in a certain "half assed" series and is having his best ever season... hmmmm...
As for earning your stripes overseas, why? If someone is a good enough racer they should be picked on merit, Weather it be Foxy, Lloyd, Buchannon, Madill, Whoever. At the end of the day if the sport becomes to eliteist it will decline. Most people cant afford to spend thousands on a bike then thousands racing the National series then thousands more racing overseas. And because they cant, the logical thing to do now will be to miss the National series and save your pennys for overseas.
What this means is that the skill level at the national series will drop, young riders coming through will have less to measure themselves against, therefore they will not improve as fast, therefore Aussie will be further from the top of the podium, sounds promiseing aye?
Roxy has already mentioned in this thread how it's disinheartening for her knowing that whatever effort she puts into the next series could now be for nothing, it doesn't take many girls to decide the samething and dowm, down, down goes participation...
7 is correct. The current World Champ, which happens to be Sam Hill, goes through by default. This means we will have all 8 riders listed on the track.
ok guys I can see your argument.
Just check all your statements before shooting your mouth off. Do you really know what your talking about??
I'm quite sure the team wasnt picked at the pub. There is a criteria which is followed. It is not decided on an internet forum.
There are people who unfortunately miss out and should be in.
However no one can dispute the past results of the chosen riders.
I'd love to mentioned those riders prove me wrong but there results do not warrant selection. No matter how sic they ride the ebenzer track.
many of the australian events are run well but ask any of our top riders as to were it sits those races sit on the list of there priorities ????
Why did polc to come around the world??Don't know probably to get some good off season training
Just check all your statements before shooting your mouth off. Do you really know what your talking about??
I'm quite sure the team wasnt picked at the pub. There is a criteria which is followed. It is not decided on an internet forum.
There are people who unfortunately miss out and should be in.
However no one can dispute the past results of the chosen riders.
I'd love to mentioned those riders prove me wrong but there results do not warrant selection. No matter how sic they ride the ebenzer track.
many of the australian events are run well but ask any of our top riders as to were it sits those races sit on the list of there priorities ????
Why did polc to come around the world??Don't know probably to get some good off season training
I feel sorry for rox and lloyd as they put there time and effort into training only to be shatered dreams oh whell theres two that could give a f@ck about next year.Half assed series i suppose it could be called that now .Seems it was used like a wigiegrub benefit a few and suck what protien is there then toss the rest .Also with a house full of bmxers if somone drops out then sharples can replace them with somone who never rides MTB wich i no as fact is on the cards .
Any ways to all those chosen good luck.
PS ronning your a dead set assclown
Any ways to all those chosen good luck.
PS ronning your a dead set assclown
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Good answer ronning, nice to see you are reading our points of view.
I understand well and truely where your coming from, im just strugging to make sense of some of the choices.
Jared of course is a shoe in, but im wondering if there has been prior dscussion with riders nominated to do both events as to their willingness to compete in both on such a big weekend. Quite often at WC's we see several DHer's on the start list for the 4x but I can remember numerous times where they have pulled out prior to the Actual racing because they felt good for the DH and didn't want to drain their energy.
I am concerned that if they do that at the Worlds they are depriveing another rider the oppertunity to shine.
On another note, does anyone have any updates on Bryn's wrist? do they expect him to be right to race?
I understand well and truely where your coming from, im just strugging to make sense of some of the choices.
Jared of course is a shoe in, but im wondering if there has been prior dscussion with riders nominated to do both events as to their willingness to compete in both on such a big weekend. Quite often at WC's we see several DHer's on the start list for the 4x but I can remember numerous times where they have pulled out prior to the Actual racing because they felt good for the DH and didn't want to drain their energy.
I am concerned that if they do that at the Worlds they are depriveing another rider the oppertunity to shine.
On another note, does anyone have any updates on Bryn's wrist? do they expect him to be right to race?
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It seems a pretty simple formula to me; if you want worlds selection, get out there and prove you can mix it up at the international level. Yes, Lloyd did pretty well at the last World's but that's his only real international experience.
Obviously not a lot of credence is given to Oceania's as it's just us and a bunch of kiwi's who show up to get smoked
Obviously not a lot of value is put in the National series because there are very few Aussie pros who take it seriously, as it's their off season.
Every Aussie on the team has proven over the years that they have what it takes to perform on the world stage. Lloyd, as yet, has not. Every Aussie on the team has risked a huge amount of their own money and given up a huge amount of their own time to get overseas, race and get noticed in the first place. Lloyd, as yet, has not. It's pretty obvious how the formula here works; race overseas and do well = get selected. Race in Australia and do well = not get selected.
Note that all of the Aussies with their "big dollar"rolleyes: Ha! Big money in MTB? Don't know which sport you're following) sponsors only have those sponsors because they took the risk in the first place and got themselves overseas to race. If Lloyd does that there's no doubt in my mind that he'll be in the same position in a few years time but ultimately, he has to make the first move and do something about it. No one is going to come banging down his door and shoving contracts under his nose just because he wins a few national rounds, the scene here is littered with riders with bucketloads of talent who never make the next level because they never venture beyond our shores.
Also, seriously, BOBCATZZ, post in English dude. If you can speak it you can write it.
Obviously not a lot of credence is given to Oceania's as it's just us and a bunch of kiwi's who show up to get smoked
Obviously not a lot of value is put in the National series because there are very few Aussie pros who take it seriously, as it's their off season. Every Aussie on the team has proven over the years that they have what it takes to perform on the world stage. Lloyd, as yet, has not. Every Aussie on the team has risked a huge amount of their own money and given up a huge amount of their own time to get overseas, race and get noticed in the first place. Lloyd, as yet, has not. It's pretty obvious how the formula here works; race overseas and do well = get selected. Race in Australia and do well = not get selected.
Note that all of the Aussies with their "big dollar"
rolleyes: Ha! Big money in MTB? Don't know which sport you're following) sponsors only have those sponsors because they took the risk in the first place and got themselves overseas to race. If Lloyd does that there's no doubt in my mind that he'll be in the same position in a few years time but ultimately, he has to make the first move and do something about it. No one is going to come banging down his door and shoving contracts under his nose just because he wins a few national rounds, the scene here is littered with riders with bucketloads of talent who never make the next level because they never venture beyond our shores.Also, seriously, BOBCATZZ, post in English dude. If you can speak it you can write it.
Daver
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This isn't the first time you've been pulled up for spelling. It takes no more effort to spell properly, and it makes people read and understand what you're saying.
Anyway, IMO you should be racing on a global stage before you are even looked at for selection. Doing well inside Australia is all good and proper, but to be recognised you should be racing outside Australia. There are few, if any, riders who have been a pro from day one, meaning at some stage they have paid their way to race o/s prior to selection.
GDonehue
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Although I don't agree with all of your points Ryan (there are some guys on the team making some very nice coin... not MX nice, but nice enough not to be begging for food), you have put it pretty much as it is. I am not a fan of the selection criteria, as it is certainly not how it is applied in other countries, so why here with such a strong local race scene (and I do not mean in terms of numbers I mean in terms of actual quality). I do hope Lloydy gets his chance to race overseas next year, as I believe he will do well and will make the 2008 Team.