My post.4WD thing was just a dig at an uninformed comment suggesting a small car couldn't handle a bike rack
(there were a few '4's in there, but no 4wd lol)
It's amazing how life changes when you've got a bit of spare change. It wasn't long ago when we bouht along our own roof carriers and fit 4 bicycles on a little holden barina with 4 fully grown blokes heading for buller. Did the same with snow gear on a 2 door honda civic (guy had a car pass and we were tight asses ok).
Nowadays won't bat an eyelid for $700 for a decent carrier because it does something a bit better of saves a few minutes setting it up in the morning. When I was searching I soon figured out that it was easier to just spend an extra 15 minutes walking around lysterfield carpark to see what everyone else had and get real life experience how they load and unload their bikes and the pros and cons of each.
You're still telling me to stop being delicate about tonka trucks (I drive my wife's 10 year old honda civic) and my original post had nothing to do with 4wds. I don't have a dog in the fight , and surprisingly anti-4wds lol, but that you've read me wrong probably suggests you should get some clear air and go for a ride.In short, settle down, stop getting all delicate about your tonka trucks.