hey sickpuppyonglory, mate i was only making a statement, as for your things to do list such as morgage and weddings, been there done that including the kids, the problem with legal trails for DH in brissy is we had them once, yes it was part greenies but the majority like all capital cities is the fact that the younger fellas/kids get out there and start to modify or try to improve these trails making them dangerous, instead of joining a community like farkin and finding info on trails and helping out with trail care days and the like, instead they just get out there with a shovel and fuck things up for everyone...yes i have ridden illegal trails (before anyone brings it up) but its the same with dirt jumps in the metro area.Council build them only to have them stuffed up by a few kids with shovels...this is always going to happen and it is the biggest stumbling block besides the greenies and land access....as for mt gravatt, cant see it happening myself, not for dh being legal, they possibly could open it up to mtb but that would more then likely only be more xc trails, and then there would be parking issues