COVID-19: who’s going full doomsday prep on this?

Kerplunk said:
. There is no good option on the table, do we let heap die in palliative care so a bunch of over leveraged shitcunts that haven’t saved for a rainy day keep some BS services job that isn’t recession proof?
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I was going to say this before and add that he must be the off-spring of Hitler. This Govt punished people for saving and it, and all of its shitcunts should swallow it well and truly deep throat style.
 
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pink poodle said:
The states have a lot of autonomy to make tough decisions, but I think they are likewise playing a bit of a safe game. Each juggling how far they can push things and not be too far ahead of the other states. Nobody wants the guilt/blame for killing the economy, federally or state.
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The weird thing about Federation is that States handle most things in country...the Feds do the funding and the out country stuff. And all the members carry a knife. The Prime Minister is just one knife...
 
silentbutdeadly said:
The weird thing about Federation is that States handle most things in country...the Feds do the funding and the out country stuff. And all the members carry a knife. The Prime Minister is just one knife...
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Beware the ides of March. He must be feeling a little nervous.
 
LPG said:
There is no chance of that, she caught me trying to sew some handlebars onto a hat and I am now socially isolated to the dog house.
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Sounds like you'll have time to design some hand print tattoos...perfect for the hips.
 
Kerplunk said:
That sounds like the perfect situation when a patient arrives already done for and are just wheeled off to the death tent. No patient gets progressively sicker and need icu services to then recover in that scenario. Are they just going to use a triage nurse to tick and flick?

I’m a sole trader, self employed I get a lot of income out of Italy, France and Germany on top of oz, how do think that is going to work out for me? There is zero stimulus for me.. Yet I’m here screaming for a shutdown.. There is no good option on the table, do we let heap die in palliative care so a bunch of over leveraged shitcunts that haven’t saved for a rainy day keep some BS services job that isn’t recession proof?
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Even if we manage to flatten the curve there will almost certainly be more demand for icu beds then can be met.

Without triage, the icu beds will go to whoever is sick first. It makes more sense to reserve the icu beds for those with the best chance of survival. This is much like what we already do for organ transplant patients where demand far outstrips supply.

I'm not suggesting that there is a good option. I just feel like we are focusing solely on a very costly containment, because this is all epidemioligists think about without considering mitigation which has a different set of costs that fall on a different set of people.

Personally if I was 60+ with kids just starting their careers I'd be screaming harder to save the economy.

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its frightening seeing it spread locally....the link below shows whats going on around you

Coronavirus case tracker (covid-19 infections NEAR YOU)

COVID-19 Case Tracker Australia

Track Coronavirus (COVID-19) cases in Australia with trends, analytics and state-by-state breakdowns. Updated with the latest announcements, news and data.
covid-19-au.github.io covid-19-au.github.io

latest AU stats collated:

Coronavirus (COVID-19) in Australia
www.covid19data.com.au

Coronavirus (COVID-19) in Australia | Data

Data visualisations tracking the novel coronavirus (COVID-19) in Australia. Data updated frequently. Infographics to share and embed.
www.covid19data.com.au www.covid19data.com.au

..stay safe & smart everyone. feeling very anxious for my fam who are in their senior years &/or are vulnerable :(
 
LPG said:
Wife and I have been laughing/shaking our heads at whorders all week. Now that gyms are to be shut she is trying to panic buy a squat rack.
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Better get weight plates quick. Weight plates and Hand weights are all sold out in my area.
My wife teachers a gym class as a hobby job and had to order so stuff on line to keep in practice while the gym is closed. I have a kettle bell I could get swinging if I get bored enough.
 
Hahahahaaaaa!

www.smh.com.au

Top investors warn coronavirus progress needed to end share rout

The Australian sharemarket is “close to the bottom”, according to the head of economics at Credit Suisse, who forecasts it to rise at an annualised rate of 6.6 per cent over the next five years
www.smh.com.au www.smh.com.au

Damian Boey, the head of macro strategy and economics at Credit Suisse is now forecasting the local index to rise at an annualised pace of 6.6 per cent over the next five years.
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How do these people sleep at night? They are like modern day crystal ball readers...
 
Oddjob said:
Even if we manage to flatten the curve there will almost certainly be more demand for icu beds then can be met.

Without triage, the icu beds will go to whoever is sick first. It makes more sense to reserve the icu beds for those with the best chance of survival. This is much like what we already do for organ transplant patients where demand far outstrips supply.

I'm not suggesting that there is a good option. I just feel like we are focusing solely on a very costly containment, because this is all epidemioligists think about without considering mitigation which has a different set of costs that fall on a different set of people.

Personally if I was 60+ with kids just starting their careers I'd be screaming harder to save the economy.

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There is clear evidence now showing a fast hard short shutdown/lockdown to stop the virus rather than flattening the curve provides the best health and economic outcome. We haven’t acted fast enough so we can’t just let the virus rip now as you suggest.
That is the reason I am saying shutdown it all down, keep the states and borders locked and get the economy going again after while we work out a long term plan. Right now we are just going to end up grinding everything into the ground for 6-12months.. Victoria is trying to shutdown but scotty is stopping it.
 
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Kerplunk said:
There is clear evidence now showing a fast hard short shutdown/lockdown to stop the virus rather than flattening the curve provides the best health and economic outcome. We haven’t acted fast enough so we can’t just let the virus rip now as you suggest.
That is the reason I am saying shutdown it all down, keep the states and borders locked and get the economy going again after while we work out a long term plan. Right now we are just going to end up grinding everything into the ground for 6-12months.. Victoria is trying to shutdown but scotty is stopping it.
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Looks more and more like the only option.

https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56

https://www.bing.com/covid
 
safreek said:
Well at least hairdressers and beauty salons are essential
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Yeah, I didn't understand this bit. Especially as when I dropped into the shops yesterday I walked past a beautician where a woman was getting her nails done - hand to hand contact, across a table, so that's less than a meter apart, without masks.

How is that good social distancing?
 
Why the fuck are those idiots in the US still doing press conferences with head nodders standing inches away! Insane.
No wonder they are on the road to destination fucked!
 
johnny said:
Yeah, I didn't understand this bit. Especially as when I dropped into the shops yesterday I walked past a beautician where a woman was getting her nails done - hand to hand contact, across a table, so that's less than a meter apart, without masks.

How is that good social distancing?
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Got me confused either - you can't go to the gym but you can get a manicure? I'm long overdue for a haircut, but there's no way I'm going anywhere near a barber for the forseeable future. Stopped shaving too, so I'll look like a hobo when I'm living out of my car.
 
Jpez said:
Why the fuck are those idiots in the US still doing press conferences with head nodders standing inches away! Insane.
No wonder they are on the road to destination fucked!
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Because at least 4 in Trumps inner circle have tested positive. Darwinism on display.
 
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