moorey
call me Mia
I think he’ll go for the 1000 as a #fuckyoumooreyI dread to think how he has managed without advice, his frame was creaking on the 12/10/21 and we never got to help
Flat Earth, religion, exBurner, roadie hate, alien existence, mushrooms and badgers thread
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moorey
call me Mia
Never got the help or never took the advice?his frame was creaking on the 12/10/21 and we never got to help
ozzybmx
taking a shit with my boobs out
FoxRidersCo
Sanity is not statistical
I grew up in a Pentecostal Cult as a child, until I escaped the church and the family home at 15.
I don't have an issue with God's teachings or the Bible in general.
The biggest issue for me was the way the ministry of the church used the guise of "religion" to basically control, brainwash, pillage financially and indoctrinate the flock (congregation) with their own MAN MADE Ideals/Rules.
The elders/pastors would basically stand on the stage and say that anyone that didn't attend this particular church WAS GOING TO HELL, if you didn't tithe then you didn't love Jesus, if a couple got divorced they would eject the entire family from the fold. If you had family or friends that didn't attend the church you were not to socialise with them less they drag you into worldly temptations .. etc etc etc
So many broken and fractured families out there because of organised religion
Can you feel the love....
I don't begrudge or judge anyone on their beliefs, I am of the opinion that if someone wants to believe in something that makes THEM happy and they're not trying to convert everyone they meet then who are they hurting ?
My Motto: Never get involved in an argument about religion or politics... No one ever wins
I don't have an issue with God's teachings or the Bible in general.
The biggest issue for me was the way the ministry of the church used the guise of "religion" to basically control, brainwash, pillage financially and indoctrinate the flock (congregation) with their own MAN MADE Ideals/Rules.
The elders/pastors would basically stand on the stage and say that anyone that didn't attend this particular church WAS GOING TO HELL, if you didn't tithe then you didn't love Jesus, if a couple got divorced they would eject the entire family from the fold. If you had family or friends that didn't attend the church you were not to socialise with them less they drag you into worldly temptations .. etc etc etc
So many broken and fractured families out there because of organised religion
Can you feel the love....
I don't begrudge or judge anyone on their beliefs, I am of the opinion that if someone wants to believe in something that makes THEM happy and they're not trying to convert everyone they meet then who are they hurting ?
My Motto: Never get involved in an argument about religion or politics... No one ever wins
SummitFever
Eats Squid
The problem with "beliefs" is where do you draw the line? Humans can't operate without any beliefs at all. We all need to believe in certain things to just function, however, we shouldn't act on those beliefs in the face of actual knowledge (personal or collective). If you believe that the earth is flat then your beliefs have just crossed you into the danger zone. The death-bed social media postings from anti-vaxxers (and their relatives post-mortem) provide thousands of examples of "beliefs" running flat out into the brick wall of facts.
Beliefs, wishful thinking, spirituality, it's all good stuff. We've all gotta do what we gotta do to get through the day. Just don't fall into the trap of thinking that any of it is in some way inviolate in the face of new evidence or changed circumstances.
Beliefs, wishful thinking, spirituality, it's all good stuff. We've all gotta do what we gotta do to get through the day. Just don't fall into the trap of thinking that any of it is in some way inviolate in the face of new evidence or changed circumstances.
moorey
call me Mia
‘Belief’ and ‘beliefs’ aren’t created equal though.
I believe in the scientific process, for example, as it relies on demonstrated that can be verified, tested and falsified.
I don’t think I have any beliefs based on things that require faith and are unable to be proven or falsified.
I know we’re in furious agreement, I just needed to clarify.
rockmoose
his flabber is totally gastered
I'm just putting forth the irrefutable proof that sometimes the earth is flat, and sometimes it's round. The antagonists from both sides can cherrypick the bit that suits their argument.
All it proves to me is that I am concurrently living in at least two alternate universes.
FoxRidersCo
Sanity is not statistical
3 .. if you include the Matrix
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Cyclomaniac
Likes Dirt
Thanks cokesonspecial and others, this forum has been very understanding and I don't hold any bad feelings against any of you. I'll happily have a beer with Hambo or any of you anytime. We can discuss religion or the weather, I don't mind. Like I said, I have been on both sides and can see that others have wrestled with the same concepts but come to different conclusions. I don't want to push my beliefs on anyone but I would be a total dick not to share them.
To answer your question briefly. I was brought up in a strict Catholic family. By the time I was a teenager I was shocked that no one wanted to talk about what we believed and I had questions no one was interested in answering. Yet we were all bound by this dread of a distant god who wanted us to go to church and do lots of random and tedious things to keep him happy. I decided I was not going to live my life this way. My neighbor went to a Anglician youth group and I was pretty hard on her about it however after about a year she persuaded me to go on the promise that I would meet lots of girls that didn't go to my high school. I went and the leaders there were happy to answer my questions and pushed me to ask more. They were just kids themselves but they loved the Bible and showed me what it said. I was amazed by it's consistency and complexity (I am aware that others will be puzzled by that) I still have doubts but that's normal, I think it is healthy to question your own thoughts, motives, and beliefs. Sometimes I have looked into atheist thinking to make sure that I am not believing in vain. As the apostle Paul puts it "If only for this life we have hope in Christ, we are of all people most to be pitied." Dawkins, Hitchens and the like have been helpful in I guess summarizing some of the modern atheist arguments and I encourage people to read them but you must apply the same fierce skepticism they give to religion.
And yes I met a girl, she is wonderful and after 22 years of marriage we still are happy to say we are the second best decision we ever made.
Cheers people.
ozzybmx
taking a shit with my boobs out
Hmmm... Ive never seen that soft side to it
I was brought up a strict Protestant in Northern Ireland.
As far as both above religions and the rest of them are concerned, they can all go eat a bag of dicks.
I like the idea of beliefs but nobody is bound by anything.
Believe what you want but never expect or push that belief on anyone else.
cokeonspecialtwodollars
Fartes of Portingale
Honestly @Cyclomaniac I don't share your belief but I love the approach that you've taken to your faith, your ability to apply critical thinking, to ask questions that you needed answers to and not just follow blindly is beyond reproach. Massive respect for you to maintain your course with dignity and civility.
downunderdallas
Likes Bikes and Dirt
I've been too busy working/riding lately and I think I missed the thread that sent Hambo over the edge, what was it?
The Duckmeister
Has a juicy midrange
It was probably when I yelled at him the third time I told him to tighten his rotor bolts.
pink poodle
気が狂っている男
The bloke from Qld that was flipping broken frames and claimed to be enormous and 110% muscles....dragon/dragan? No dirty
dingo!
Flow-Rider
Burner
What about Figboot?
Lazmo
Old and hopeless
I will miss Hambo. No one enjoyed a new shiny trinket more than him. Plus I’ve ridden his trails and it’s nice to hear about that end of the world.
It must have been building for a while, because what just transpired wasn’t wacko enough for an exit.
Regarding the religion bizzo, I think Moorey took one for the team… but I added fuel to the fire with the tooth fairy comment. But I’m cool with people believing in tooth fairies, just as long as they curtail the need to promulgate that concept.
The joy of our universe (much more likely a multiverse) is that up until now (and I’m happy to be wrong) … the whole shebang is capable of going off on its own, without the tooth fairy’s involvement… in fact the deeper you go, the infinitely less likely is that it wouldn’t happen.
Which is handily true… as we are all here.
Except Hambo… come in boat number three, your time is up.
It must have been building for a while, because what just transpired wasn’t wacko enough for an exit.
Regarding the religion bizzo, I think Moorey took one for the team… but I added fuel to the fire with the tooth fairy comment. But I’m cool with people believing in tooth fairies, just as long as they curtail the need to promulgate that concept.
The joy of our universe (much more likely a multiverse) is that up until now (and I’m happy to be wrong) … the whole shebang is capable of going off on its own, without the tooth fairy’s involvement… in fact the deeper you go, the infinitely less likely is that it wouldn’t happen.
Which is handily true… as we are all here.
Except Hambo… come in boat number three, your time is up.
moorey
call me Mia
Not guilty. I didn’t engage with him until after all that and he’d flounced.