Yeti thinks 114mm is ok on the sb4.5.. Norco optic 110mm.. Anyone know if these sell well?I would have thought the 140/130mm setup of the Trance would have been more desirable.
Not to many 'burners are on the lookout for a 115m rear travel bike these days?
First thing's first; I like the look of it. Blue and black is cool, looks ace. Box ticked.Giant are so late to the game, and $8300USD now gets you the DVO spec'ed with Reverb and Trvativ finishing kit and everyone's favourite crackers of composite wheels. So they even missed the mark with pricing, which is rare for Giant.
There is no doubt you can get those other systems to pedal as well or better than a Maestro/VPP/DW bike. That's not what I was claiming. What I think Maestro brings to the table in the short travel suspension area is the combination of "pedals well, has good small bump compliance and still has a bottomless feel on the big hits". Those are the three things I want in a rear suspension package.@SummitFever Do dual linkage systems really pedal any better than a Horst, Faux Bar, Single Pivot, DELTA, ABP style design with the pivot points in the right spot?
Couldn't agree more.... those Trunnion mounts are just retarded and offer nothing to their frame design where they're not limited for real estate in the shock length area of the frame. I don't know which fucking idiot thought it was a good idea to put a single shear bolt onto the major part of the damper body and then submit the shock to more lateral loads from a wider leverage point, but he needs to be lynched.
It's almost in complete backwards logic to Ohlins/DT Swiss shocks mounting with spherical bearings so that you remove the lateral forces from the shock altogether and allow it to simply push along it's stroke consistently...
So to summarize; we agree that this bike is an overpriced pile of poohed sausage mince.@Dozer you only get the blue/black if you frop the $8300USD on it, otherwise you're getting as one Pinkbike commenter said "Colour schemes like that of a toy out a McDonalds Happy meal".
They've jumped into a category with a fairly generic option, where amazing options exist: Transition Smuggler, Evil Wreckoning, Stumpjumper ST, Banshee Phantom, Pole Evolink 110, Yeti SB4.5, Yeti SB100, Santa Cruz Tallboy, Trek Fuel EX, Guerilla Gravity Trail Pistol, Devinci Marshall, Norco Sight, Kona Process 111, Scott Spark, Orbea Occam, Intense Sniper...to name a few; and then priced themselves into some of the boutique options. When Specialized are undercutting your pricing, and competing with SWAT functionality and components that won't explode, you're in a tough selling spot.
It'll be interesting to see how they sell, they're also competing against bikes that are all several editions into their refinement.
Orthodontists need to spend their money some how...Abit like trek and spesh charging over 12g for bikes that are nothin special.
It's surely too close to the burlier Anthem model for comfort.I agree re burners, I have 130 rear travel on my 29 and it certainly feels like the sweet spot for general trail riding.. I have to say though I never feel like I don’t have enough rear travel..
It essentially replaces the Anthem 27.5.It's surely too close to the burlier Anthem model
Yeah for sure but some buyers will trust their own eyes rather than a review on pinkbike.. I didn’t say the whole market, just a chunk of it.. Giant are selling plenty of bikes..Also, no concept of delayed gratification, some things are just worth waiting for.
Don’t the anthem’s just crack if you weight over 80kg and sit on it?It's surely too close to the burlier Anthem model for comfort.
As Zaf mentioned, this category is filled with some properly drool worthy machines, this aint one!
I've read some of that stuff from Leo and I'm looking forward to seeing it in action.@Oddjob You might be in for a surprise with that one with regards to bobbing.
Also probably worth reading his insight on the suspension design in general
https://polebicycles.com/what-is-anti-squat-and-pedal-kickback/