ok guys,1stly its just my OWN opinion.no offence taken..243 is a great frame.had great reviews.maybe i said things that doesnt justify the getting it over a cr8 is becos,over here,cr8 costs SGD$350 bucks.which will be even lesser than 300AUD.i have no idea wat advantages the .243 has got over the cr8.and yes,i didnt do a research on it cost i never fancy them,and never will be.(would go for a pashley anytime).anyhow,its still a very nice frame and nice setup.just that its not my cup of tea.nice job there Naz.hope u enjoy ur ride.sorrie for the comments if u didnt like them.