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[Oddjob]

Jesus Christ...

Alarm as Arctic sea ice not yet freezing at latest date on record

Delayed freeze in Laptev Sea could have knock-on effects across polar region, scientists say

www.theguardian.com

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Why isn't this the only thing we are talking about???

For fuck sake!!!

Because we haven't had a string of monsoon failures leading to a global famine yet.

Once that happens, I expect:

1. Solar geo-engineering as a bridging tech
2. Lots of 5th gen small scale nuclear burning U238 hooked up to carbon scourers and making synthetic diamonds for construction and road base.

Hopefully Asia doesn't collapse in on itself first.


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[hifiandmtb]

I don't think we can compile a coordinated response. Simple as that.

Gradual collapse of ecosystems & social humanity...

 

[Oddjob]

I don't think we can compile a coordinated response. Simple as that.

Gradual collapse of ecosystems & social humanity...

That's the beauty of the above response. It doesn't require herding the cats. India or more likely China can go it alone if they fear the anarchy that follows famine enough.

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[hifiandmtb]

Maybe it will be a country like China with a better (different) handle on social unrest that'll make the first move.

Rather ironic.

 

[Oddjob]

Maybe it will be a country like China with a better (different) handle on social unrest that'll make the first move.

Rather ironic.

China has been a net importer of food for a long time. As climate change erodes its arable land the net deficit will only grow.

Famine would be unacceptable to the CCP, the great leap forward and its famine is a bogeyman in China.

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[Freediver]

Somebody should do something.

 

[pink poodle]

Somebody should do something.

Won't somebody please think of the children!!!???

 

[Freediver]

Won't somebody please think of the children!!!???

Just stop having them.

 

[pink poodle]

Just stop having them.

It's a deal!

 

[downunderdallas]

Just stop having them.

Well the Chinese certainly did do something about that

 

[Haakon]

China has been a net importer of food for a long time. As climate change erodes its arable land the net deficit will only grow.

Famine would be unacceptable to the CCP, the great leap forward and its famine is a bogeyman in China.

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This is why China already owns most of Africa's arable land.

 

[Freediver]

This is why China already owns most of Africa's arable land.

Source?

 

[Haakon]

Source?

Im indulging in a little hyperbole there to be fair, but China have been spending big big big money in Africa, just like the Pacific and other places. Lots of infrastructure projects the countries don’t necessarily need and will never be able to pay back - so Chinese interests simply move in. It’s a form of colonialism.

 

[pink poodle]

Im indulging in a little hyperbole there to be fair, but China have been spending big big big money in Africa, just like the Pacific and other places. Lots of infrastructure projects the countries don’t necessarily need and will never be able to pay back - so Chinese interests simply move in. It’s a form of colonialism.

Lucky Australia wouldn't do something like that...

 

[Haakon]

Lucky Australia wouldn't do something like that...

of course not

 

[hifiandmtb]

Nothing to see here, move along...

Arctic methane deposits 'starting to release', scientists say

Exclusive: expedition says preliminary findings indicate that new source of greenhouse gas off East Siberian coast has been triggered

www.theguardian.com

Scientists have found evidence that frozen methane deposits in the Arctic Ocean – known as the “sleeping giants of the carbon cycle” – have started to be released over a large area of the continental slope off the East Siberian coast, the Guardian can reveal.

High levels of the potent greenhouse gas have been detected down to a depth of 350 metres in the Laptev Sea near Russia, prompting concern among researchers that a new climate feedback loop may have been triggered that could accelerate the pace of global heating.

The slope sediments in the Arctic contain a huge quantity of frozen methane and other gases – known as hydrates. Methane has a warming effect 80 times stronger than carbon dioxide over 20 years. The United States Geological Survey has previously listed Arctic hydrate destabilisation as one of four most serious scenarios for abrupt climate change.

Abrupt means almost impossible adaptation, humans...

 

[pink poodle]

Can't we just have a hazard reduction burn off? Seems the solution we like best...

 

[Haakon]

Can't we just have a hazard reduction burn off? Seems the solution we like best...

Well, we could - but all those ducking greenies keep stopping us. It’s shameful.

 

[pink poodle]

Well, we could - but all those ducking greenies keep stopping us. It’s shameful.

They're the real vandals. They caused all our fires and they'll cause this too. Why won't the worship he fire god with us?

 

[Haakon]

They're the real vandals. They caused all our fires and they'll cause this too. Why won't the worship he fire god with us?

Maybe if we just burn the greenies? Two birds etc.