Agree 100%. My experience is 3 years now and 1 slow leak plus 1 slice. On the second set of Fusion 3s.How is anyone else going with tubeless for the road lately?
My tubeless system is running PERFECT. Have used Hutchinson Fusion 3 road tubeless tyres on my Campagnolo Shamal two-way fit rims for just on 12months now and about 6,000kms. I have had only one flat in that time, for a cut that would have flatted anything due to a slice over 10mm long on a country road. Stans tubeless is working fine. I got a compressor from Bunnings for $70 and works fine, with a $3 adaptor from the bike shop.
If you have the right rims, I highly recommend tubeless for the roadie. My experience has been great.
Just put the sealant in before you seat the last bit of the tyre bead, I've never used an injector or core remover. If you have a nice tight bead / rim fit then a floor pump will be fine. If it won't go up with a floor pump then you can dump a co2 into each one to seat the bead. Just make sure you release the co2 and replace with air once it seals up as the co2 is apparently not good for the sealant.I bought a new pair of wheels last year (Hope Mono RS / Stans Alpha 400) and after discovering just how much of a pain in the ass fitting regular tubes/tyres (or at least Schwalbe Duranos) are, I've decided to go tubeless in the search of a better fit.
I thought I'd bought everything I need - Stans Sealant, Stans valves, Hutchison Fusion tyres, but now that I've watched the movies on how to fit them, I've realised I'm missing some (possibly vital) pieces - Core Remover, Injector and I also only have a floor pump.
I'm reluctant to start the process in case I can't complete it as this is my daily commuter, but I can now see several cuts forming in the existing tyres so I need to address it sooner rather than later.
Would there be anyone in or around Melbourne that would be able to help me out? I'm happy to compensate you for your time and effort.
The CO2 kills it straight away and it doesnt recover. better of just pumping like mad or using an air compressor.Just put the sealant in before you seat the last bit of the tyre bead, I've never used an injector or core remover. If you have a nice tight bead / rim fit then a floor pump will be fine. If it won't go up with a floor pump then you can dump a co2 into each one to seat the bead. Just make sure you release the co2 and replace with air once it seals up as the co2 is apparently not good for the sealant.
Kills it immediately how ?The CO2 kills it straight away and it doesnt recover. better of just pumping like mad or using an air compressor.
Kick it old school, with your spare tub on your shoulders!Given up on road tubeless after 1 1/2 years.
Too many flats/torn tires (mostly from rides in the rain). I have not had stans repair even one tubeless flat, its just sprays latex everywhere.
Putting a replacement tube in road side is such a pain. The beads are so tight. I have had so many pinched flats to the tube trying to get the tyre back on. Fulcrum 2-way fits with Specilized Roubiax or Schwalbe ones. They are fine to put on and off at home with a bit of soapy water.
I would rather go tubular, it would be much easier to change road side.
I just found this supposed quote from the Stan's people on another forum:Freezes it, sets it and kills its ability to seal.
There seems to be a very mixed experience amongst users on the effect of CO2 on the sealant. Maybe the 'freezing' is the reason, I doubt there is a chemical reaction.Using CO2 is not recommended as it may set up the sealant. During a race though do what you have too to win. Just make sure the valve is at the top. And give the sealant a second to flow down to the bottom of the tire so not to be blasting right on the sealant. - Pete
It can shorten the life of the sealant in that it can turn the once liquid sealant into one rubber ball. If you must use CO2, you can inflate the tire without sealant, then deflate the tire and add your sealant through the valve stem. With most tire and rim combinations, the beads of the tire will stay on the benches of the rim making re-inflation much easier. -Mike
Kind of agree - getting the tires to bead is always a bit pot luck. What about one of these http://www.bikeradar.com/mtb/gear/article/how-to-make-a-tubeless-inflator-44290/ ?I reckon if you are going tubeless you HAVE to have a compressor. Mine cost $70 from Bunnings and is used on my roadie and MTB.
+1, I wont go back to tubes on any bike.Put a tube in the front Schwobble One tubeless this morning... I got a hole about two months ago that wouldnt seal and dumped stans everywhere - it got a tube at the time but I was able to take the tube out and it sealed and behaved for a while.
The hole was right on the edge of the capability of stans and for the next coupe of months it would give a spurt/hiss every now and then that would always reseal itself. This morning it did this three times in a row though and lost too much pressure...
It will be fine with a patch on the inside.
2500kms on these tyres and I willl never go back to tubes. Love them. Rear is pretty stuffed at this distance, front not very worn but lots of little cuts. Lots of glass on my commute...