Terrorism: Paris, Syria, Turkey, Belgium, Florida......

Freediver said:
"Islam, a short history" by Karen Armstrong is here in PDF http://ashtoncentralmosque.com/wp-c.../Islam-A-Short-History-by-Karen-Armstrong.pdf
There are plenty of books on the Sykes Picot Agreement which is pretty much where modern history starts or as some say maybe it was with the Crimean War . Pink Poodle is kind of right about Lawrence of Arabia but it's a bit more complex than the film version.
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Lawrence wrote extensively about the complexities of the middle east.
 
johnny said:
France definitely has some serious social problems, especially with their Muslim population. However, I'd also be skeptical of surveys carried out by Russian media anywhere, let alone in Western Europe who have strong econ sanctions on Russia.
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Not so long ago French youth were burning cars in the streets. The French have a history of kicking up a stink in style.
 
religion-is-a-powerful-thing-my-friends-be-aware-of-that

Australia-is-about-to-take-on-12000-muslims-while-there-are-more-Australians-living-on
the-edge-of-poverty-than-those-12000-muslims....

so-where-do-you-think-we-should-be-putting-our-resourses??
 
Not the greatest of academic sources - warren miller (late 90s) included Iran in one of his films. He assured us of how far they had progressed socially, he even showed women skiing in fairly liberated attire. It made for a wonderful tourism promo. One day...

World Book encycloped in the 1990 edition talks of a progressive middle eatst leader called Saddam Hussein and his country that is leading the way for their neighbours. Iraq...the land of dates.
 
Hellyeah said:
religion-is-a-powerful-thing-my-friends-be-aware-of-that

Australia-is-about-to-take-on-12000-muslims-while-there-are-more-Australians-living-on
the-edge-of-poverty-than-those-12000-muslims....

so-where-do-you-think-we-should-be-putting-our-resourses??
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You're right, we need a moat!
 
Hellyeah said:
religion-is-a-powerful-thing-my-friends-be-aware-of-that

Australia-is-about-to-take-on-12000-muslims-while-there-are-more-Australians-living-on
the-edge-of-poverty-than-those-12000-muslims....

so-where-do-you-think-we-should-be-putting-our-refugees??
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In Queensland I hope.
 
.dan. said:
The problem many westerners have is they believe that every non-democratic country around the world would benefit from becoming a democracy. This is a rather narrow minded point of view to have. It may work for us, but for them it is often a completely different situation. There's too many cultural differences, etc. for it to work in many foreign places. I also think it is not our job to go sticking our noses into foreign countries business, telling them what we think they should do, and occasionally fucking things up for them just because we think differently. And IMO democracy isn't that great of a governmental structure, but at this point in our history it seems to be the best we have.
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How long did it take for westerners to iron out democracy? France were quite the yoyo. England still has a queen...and a magna cata. Oh we have a queen too.
 
Everytime-I-drive-through-Moorooka-(a-suburb-near-the-cbd-in-Brisbane)-I-see
a-fuck-load-of-Africans-sitting-on-they're-asses........while-I'm-working

I-can't-help-to-think...........my-tax-dollars-are-paying-for-you-sitting-on-your-arse..
 
Hellyeah said:
Everytime-I-drive-through-Moorooka-(a-suburb-near-the-cbd-in-Brisbane)-I-see
a-fuck-load-of-Africans-sitting-on-they're-asses........while-I'm-working

I-can't-help-to-think...........my-tax-dollars-are-paying-for-you-sitting-on-your-arse..
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Bwhahahha, I think this every time I drive or travel past a council/road/rail work crew doing fuck all.

Apparently the safety watcher needs a few mates to watch them, make sure they don't fall asleep.
 
Hellyeah said:
in-your-neighbourhood-I-hope,-then-we'll-see-you-cry
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The man usually send refugees to my 'hood. I like it. I've had neighbours from all over Africa, some of whom have become good friend. Their stories of survival are inspiring. I've had Serbs and Croats fleeing what happened to Yugoslavia. Great Italians and Greeks too. Even some Anglos. I know right...who would trust whitey?
 
pink poodle said:
Lawrence of Arabia.
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Lawrence wrote about his experiences:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=1447587351&ref_=sr_1_1&s=digital-text&sr=1-1

Bit of an overview of the situation then:
http://www.amazon.com/Lawrence-Arab...437&sr=1-1&keywords=lawrence+in+arabia+kindle

If you want a bit of a diversion, WW1 vet and playwright Robert Graves knew Lawrence after the war:
http://www.amazon.com/Goodbye-That-...447588233&sr=1-2&keywords=goodbye+to+all+that

Graves also knew George Mallory the everest climber:
http://www.amazon.com/Into-Silence-...great+war+mallory+and+the+conquest+of+everest

Who was eventually found:
http://www.amazon.com/Lost-Explorer...=1447588425&sr=1-1&keywords=the+lost+explorer

They're interesting to me because of the interconnectedness of things sometimes doesn't mean the way the world is because of some Jew-lizardman-illuminati conspiracy, but rather the ripple of ideas and the interplay of personalities that can endure beyond the life times of the instigators, and have profound yet unintended consequences.

Also if you want to roll this current situation back a bit further:
http://www.amazon.com/Belisarius-Ro...-1&keywords=belisarius+the+last+roman+general
 
stirk said:
Bwhahahha, I think this every time I drive or travel past a council/road/rail work crew doing fuck all.

Apparently the safety watcher needs a few mates to watch them, make sure they don't fall asleep.
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What, you like the bloke that supports the shovel from falling over, I sometimes stop to ask them for a job like that.
 
mitch_302 said:
Looks like I'll get some differing opinions here, but any suggestions on books or any other sources to start getting a better understanding of all this friction/the realities of the Islamic faith?
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Three good books I've read this year:
Iran at the crossroads - Amin Saikal. A good brief history of Iran. A bit date/name heavy, but reasonably easy reading.
Paramedic to the Prince - forgotten the authors name. A poorly written book, but heaps of interesting anecdotal accounts of life in Saudi Arabia. Really easy reading.
Infidel - Ayan Hirsi Ali. She's a very influential right wing figure in European politics and Muslim refugee. A very interesting story.. It does get a bit preachy at the end, and there's a one really gnarly bit that made my stomach turn.
.dan. said:
The problem many westerners have is they believe that every non-democratic country around the world would benefit from becoming a democracy. This is a rather narrow minded point of view to have. It may work for us, but for them it is often a completely different situation. There's too many cultural differences, etc. for it to work in many foreign places. I also think it is not our job to go sticking our noses into foreign countries business, telling them what we think they should do, and occasionally fucking things up for them just because we think differently. And IMO democracy isn't that great of a governmental structure, but at this point in our history it seems to be the best we have.
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There's a lot of truth here I think. That's not to say the international community shouldn't pressure countries with poor human rights records, etc. But I think most countries given long term relative stability will find an equilibrium point where the majority of the population is treated fairly, and hopefully there is enough stability that the minority can exist in peace/without being murdered.
 
Hellyeah said:
Everytime-I-drive-through-Moorooka-(a-suburb-near-the-cbd-in-Brisbane)-I-see
a-fuck-load-of-Africans-sitting-on-they're-asses........while-I'm-working

I-can't-help-to-think...........my-tax-dollars-are-paying-for-you-sitting-on-your-arse..
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Yeah, that's where they relocate them, most of them are Sudanese. I liked it better when the Hookers used to walk the magic mile.
 
placebo said:
Lawrence wrote about his experiences:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=1447587351&ref_=sr_1_1&s=digital-text&sr=1-1

Bit of an overview of the situation then:
http://www.amazon.com/Lawrence-Arab...437&sr=1-1&keywords=lawrence+in+arabia+kindle

If you want a bit of a diversion, WW1 vet and playwright Robert Graves knew Lawrence after the war:
http://www.amazon.com/Goodbye-That-...447588233&sr=1-2&keywords=goodbye+to+all+that

Graves also knew George Mallory the everest climber:
http://www.amazon.com/Into-Silence-...great+war+mallory+and+the+conquest+of+everest

Who was eventually found:
http://www.amazon.com/Lost-Explorer...=1447588425&sr=1-1&keywords=the+lost+explorer

They're interesting to me because of the interconnectedness of things sometimes doesn't mean the way the world is because of some Jew-lizardman-illuminati conspiracy, but rather the ripple of ideas and the interplay of personalities that can endure beyond the life times of the instigators, and have profound yet unintended consequences.

Also if you want to roll this current situation back a bit further:
http://www.amazon.com/Belisarius-Ro...-1&keywords=belisarius+the+last+roman+general
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Those Graves books are great. I believe in Good bye to all that he professes that he would go to war for England again, even have the Germans as allies. But he was not an fan of the French. He was a fantastic author with a knack for holding your attention.

Now without Bermshot here I don't know who can clear up This Jewish-lizard issue? Was Joshua to blame for the disruptions in the middle east?
 
Wow. Bermshot has been banned. I sort of hope the crazy cat comes back using a different username but I think it may be a little obvious if he did. He had a unique way with words for sure.
 
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