Who's running Coil over Air?

Wake Jake said:
Did 1.5 years on a Float X2 and the new bike has a DHX2. Both have their pro's and con's. Definitely love the consistency and small bump on the coil but miss the poppyness and bottomless feel of the air. It is a really close race in my opinion. The adjustability of the air is great if you're loading up a pack for big ride can just add some more air.
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Yeah I've wondered what I'll do when I do another bike trek with heavy pack. Probably just wind the preload up to max and cross my fingers.
 
teK-- said:
Yeah I've wondered what I'll do when I do another bike trek with heavy pack. Probably just wind the preload up to max and cross my fingers.
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I've solved the issue and purchased a 450lb & 475lb spring haha. No loosing the small bump with over preloading the spring.
 
Have just gone to coil on my Specialized Enduro. Having trouble due to the progressive/linear/regressive nature of the linkage. Hard to dial out heavy bottom outs even with max HSC damping, and running slightly less sag. Sticks like shit to a blanket though, and leaves the Pike on the front comprehensively outgunned. I have no doubt that its faster. Suspect the innate bottom out resistance of an air shock is better suited to my frame. Do miss the playful 'pop' of an air shock too.
 
What shock are you running ?
Some coil shocks like Xfusion vector hlr have a separate big hit feature . Same as fox dhx 4/5 shock has .
So therefore HSC is for trail . And big hit bottom out is air adjustable on the remote resivour
 
I just went to DB inline coil on my torrent. Had tried a few air options but just could not it right. So far the coil has exceeded my expectations, great support, better control and bottom out seems less an issue now. Pedals surprisingly well also!
I have a luftkappe in my pike on the front, 160mm and now the balance between the 2 is awesome!
 
single-pivot said:
What shock are you running ?
Some coil shocks like Xfusion vector hlr have a separate big hit feature . Same as fox dhx 4/5 shock has .
So therefore HSC is for trail . And big hit bottom out is air adjustable on the remote resivour
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Fox DHX2 so no bottom out control other than HSC as far as I’m aware.


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True . I've run the air dhx2 on Liteville with similar suspension curve with no success . I was recommended an internal retune by avalanche suspension in the US As being a progressive regressive the shock needed more mid support. Older fox shocks and xfusion and dvo shock all have separate IFV ( shock piggy back ) adjustment . I bought a few shocks to work this out .
 
I ran a Lyrik 150-180mm dual position on my Nomad3 with a Vivid Air and swapped to a Push ElevenSix and it was night and day difference. With such a massive improvement on the rear the front Lyrik was so underwhelming I changed to a 170mm Fox HSC/LSC 36 and have not had a better handling bike ever.
It did take two goes and a bit of research to get the right spring rate for the coil and dial it in, but it's a far better performing bike now than I am a rider.
Next up is the Push AC3 Spring upgrade for the Fox36 up front.
 
Markee said:
I ran a Lyrik 150-180mm dual position on my Nomad3 with a Vivid Air and swapped to a Push ElevenSix and it was night and day difference. With such a massive improvement on the rear the front Lyrik was so underwhelming I changed to a 170mm Fox HSC/LSC 36 and have not had a better handling bike ever.
It did take two goes and a bit of research to get the right spring rate for the coil and dial it in, but it's a far better performing bike now than I am a rider.
Next up is the Push AC3 Spring upgrade for the Fox36 up front.
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I'm dreaming of an elevensix but it is ridiculously priced. I even checked out some s/h ones on pinkbike but the cost to have it revavled and i2i changed is about $575 through nsd.

Anyway I am running a '18 fox 36 hsc/LSC with the push ACS3 conversion and it absolutely blows away every fork I have ever ridden by a long shot. Super balanced with the ccdb coil cs , I cannot imagine how it would feel with an elevensix in the back

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single-pivot said:
True . I've run the air dhx2 on Liteville with similar suspension curve with no success . I was recommended an internal retune by avalanche suspension in the US As being a progressive regressive the shock needed more mid support. Older fox shocks and xfusion and dvo shock all have separate IFV ( shock piggy back ) adjustment . I bought a few shocks to work this out .
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Did you ever try the Liteville with a DVO or Xfusion?

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moorey said:
Been running a coil on the spitty for last 6 months. Meh. About to go back to air.
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What air have you run in the past mate and how it you find it compared to coil?

Im running a CC Coil Inline on my Spitty now, but thinking about trying out air as well
 
sutts said:
What air have you run in the past mate and how it you find it compared to coil?

Im running a CC Coil Inline on my Spitty now, but thinking about trying out air as well
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CCDBA, monarch plus rc3 deb and fox dhx air, all on the same bike, now coil DHX 5. Not really a fair comparison with only one coil, and not the latest and greatest.
 
sutts said:
What air have you run in the past mate and how it you find it compared to coil?

Im running a CC Coil Inline on my Spitty now, but thinking about trying out air as well
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These work well on the spitty

Rear end is ultra plush over rough fast stuff but still takes bit hits well. Can forget it's there and let the back end do its thing.
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Been doing it for years. Front and back. Weight difference isn’t noticeable. Only downside is getting multiple springs when when tuning the sag.
 
look at the date.....Thats over 3 years ago bro..Ive tried my share of airs here n thair but mehh, doesn't do it for me. Good deet work though. I don't even remember having that type of guide on my knolly, must of been a testing period.
 
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