wkkie
It's Not Easy Being Green
They still suck for that compared to a normal bike.Not when you're at the trail head about to bomb down.
They still suck for that compared to a normal bike.Not when you're at the trail head about to bomb down.
The 180mm ebike (Kenevo) I rode was a massive pig!Only thing that could get me near one would be massive non shuttleable hills and 180mm travel. I.e. self shuttle small DH bike.
Those days will come. Remember when people justified dh bikes in that weight range because they were stronger? It will be one of the first innovations to the e-bike I think...a manufacturer will suddenly be ~2kg ahead of the field. Or maybe it will be in e-bike specific suspension, bigger air cans or tighter coils perhaps...weighing in at 90-95kg I've had bikes where I max out the air limit on some shocks before I've got the sag I like. Add an extra 22.5kg to that and...well better add on another 300-800g for coil shock.no more weight weenieing
No they don't. They're a lot closer than you folk make out to be. How many mates do you have that ride ebikes? None? You're basing your experience on a few runs on a kenevo which actually are pigs compared to other well balanced ebikes.They still suck for that compared to a normal bike.
You're only adding 7kg.. Not 22.5kg. If you lost 10kegs then you'd be as light as your weenie mate on his carbon HT... .weighing in at 90-95kg I've had bikes where I max out the air limit on some shocks before I've got the sag I like. Add an extra 22.5kg to that and...well better add on another 300-800g for coil shock.
Not if he lost 10kgYou're only adding 7kg.. Not 22.5kg. If you lost 10kegs then you'd be as light as your weenie mate on his carbon HT.
Same same but different. It’s cool you like yours and you spend time in the bush riding it. More people riding is better for the longevity of trail centres, and with nature conservation. More people in the bush = more people who’ll care when it’s taken away. Win-win.No they don't. They're a lot closer than you folk make out to be. How many mates do you have that ride z? None? You're basing your experience on a few runs on a kenevo which actually are pigs compared to other well balanced ebikes.
Maybe take it as a hint that we don't appreciate your aggressive attitude and constant nitpicking trying to start a shitfight and that if you don't just chill a bit we'll ban your account and any you make after that. We don't care what you think about e-bikes, we care about the way you conduct yourself.Some people still ride their Norco A-line. How would you know anyway?
Want to hear a joke? Rotorburn "staff"... For throttling my account and making it super slow to navigate while logged in. The dictatorship is strong in here.
I find it amusing though and understand they like to influence and control their small community. I was going to simply register again but the captcha doesn't load. You might want to have a look at that admin (it's a known XenForo issue). You can thank me later.
I think you have me confused with another user with a similar name. That beige bichon guy was shit posting all through this thread...PS - poodle, appreciate if you'd stop atagonising as well.
The battery life varies significantly depending on what part of the load curve you are on. We were riding pretty flat fire trails at about 30kph which for that particular motor was very inefficient (it's geared for climbing). Different drives vary in 'off' mode. Some feel normal just with added mass, others like the TSDZ sap power even when off. The pedals in most cases are not directly attached to the chainring and have to go through a round of gears usually.In the e-bike riders defence, and @Calvin27 I'm baffled here(!!!), those things would be a prick to pedal with the asset turned off. A lot of extra weight to lug...so perhaps your last buddies had unknowingly drained their batteries?
I seriously don't think anything that can chuck a wheelie up a decent incline is legal. I've ridden through a few ebikes legal and not. you'd need at least 600w with a small battery pack to do that from my guestimation.Doubtful I saw them at the end of my ride..There is a steep fire road leading to the carpark and they were chucking a wheelie riding up it.. Not normal, as Lance would say..
Far out, blinkers much.. Poodle questioned whether his battery was flat.. My point was he still had enough physical & battery energy to pop a wheelie at the top of a climb that leads to the carpark that is a granny gear ball breaker on a mtb (glen track)... Stop looking for something that is not there. They had giant ebikes, that’s it..I seriously don't think anything that can chuck a wheelie up a decent incline is legal. I've ridden through a few ebikes legal and not. you'd need at least 600w with a small battery pack to do that from my guestimation.
It's where the weight is, up high with the battery packs, I know because I've a ridden a specialized Levo. The MTB shocks are just horrible at handling the extra weight and I've owned a lot of motos in the past too. You might get accustomed to the extra weight after a while but you certainly notice it when you get back onto a normal bike.No they don't. They're a lot closer than you folk make out to be. How many mates do you have that ride ebikes? None? You're basing your experience on a few runs on a kenevo which actually are pigs compared to other well balanced ebikes.
The new range of bikes are integrating the battery in the frame and keeping weight quite low. Bosch powertube and others have similar in frame solutions. Also looks a little cleaner. But there is no denying the extra 8 to 10 kg takes some getting use to and may not be appropriate for all trails. I've ridden mine around some of the yarra single track up and down. Some bits a pretty tight but I find the 27.5 a bit easier than my 29. You feel the weight but i am getting use to it and changing riding accordingly. If you read about the guys (and watch) that are actually quite skilled at normal MTB's they seem to adjust and make it work. My skill level is not high enough on normal MTB to determine difference in capability between the two. But in terms of momentum on flat or uphill - as heavy as the eMTB is - it moves very easily on any mode (unsurprisingly). They really are a lot of fun. I only happened to buy one because I had some time to kill a month or so ago and test rode a trek powerfly. Same Bosch motor. I wasn't expecting much but was blown away. Opens many opportunities for more casual riders..
It's where the weight is, up high with the battery packs, I know because I've a ridden a specialized Levo. The MTB shocks are just horrible at handling the extra weight and I've owned a lot of motos in the past too. You might get accustomed to the extra weight after a while but you certainly notice it when you get back onto a normal bike.
Well then you should have said that instead of saying hey did wheelies up a hill....Far out, blinkers much.. Poodle questioned whether his battery was flat.. My point was he still had enough physical & battery energy to pop a wheelie at the top of a climb that leads to the carpark that is a granny gear ball breaker on a mtb (glen track)... Stop looking for something that is not there. They had giant ebikes, that’s it..
Imo weight is weight. To me it's not the 'up-down' weight but the 'left-right' inertia. I've only ridden single track on eikes twice and both times pretty much conceded I'd prefer a normal bike until my legs don't permit anymore. E-mtb for me is more of a very aggressive gravel grinder that can do some single track if i need to take that short cut. I don't particularly find throwing the bike around turns fun compared to a normal bike. It might just be me though because I am running 20Ah which is quite large battery pack. Halving that might make it a little more tolerable.The new range of bikes are integrating the battery in the frame and keeping weight quite low.
Top of the climb is the steepest, i say black you say white, whatever.. ignore on..Well then you should have said that instead of saying hey did wheelies up a hill....