Little Things You Hate

pink poodle

Our man isn't in the West
Well they got zero revenue from the snow season this year, you’d think it’d be a no brainer to try something in summer.
I heard they were installing a slip and slide from the summit all the way back to the start...

It feels strange to hear of a "bike park" closing down when there is finally a bit of growth in thelis part of the MTB industry. This place must be run by Dunder heads (seems some strong evidence put forward) or they are under too many restrictions rom the land owner to bother.
 

moorey

Nothing is better than a tomato
LTIH....PayPal when you have an issue.
They charged me twice for the one purchase from CRC. Messaged them every day for last 3 days, they say they will respond within a few hours...never did.
Rang them, waited ages, they offered a callback service as they were busy. They eventually call back, I explain the situation, they acknowledge they've charged me twice erroneously, and tell me I have to contact my bank. I point out that its a PayPal issue, and the bank won't help me, she keeps saying to contact my bank to resolve it. My inner Karen starts to bubble up, and I ask if there is someone else I can talk to about this?

She hangs up.
 

DMan

alid sinistra oliva
LTIH....PayPal when you have an issue.
They charged me twice for the one purchase from CRC. Messaged them every day for last 3 days, they say they will respond within a few hours...never did.
Rang them, waited ages, they offered a callback service as they were busy. They eventually call back, I explain the situation, they acknowledge they've charged me twice erroneously, and tell me I have to contact my bank. I point out that its a PayPal issue, and the bank won't help me, she keeps saying to contact my bank to resolve it. My inner Karen starts to bubble up, and I ask if there is someone else I can talk to about this?

She hangs up.
I'm sorry, it's not me it's you.
 

moorey

Nothing is better than a tomato
or they are under too many restrictions rom the land owner to bother.
Can't see what restrictions...DH tracks have been there and running since the 80's. They have zero impact on the snow season and infrastructure. Baw Baw is a smaller hill with only the one actual DH track, yet they got their shit together and run their own shuttles over summer.
Mirimbah servo/cafe at the base of Buller used to run private shuttles...they seem to have been pushed out by Blue Dirt, who now seem to not be interested in running a decent shuttle service either (I have some beefs with BD's monopoly aside from Buller). If I've got this wrong, happy to be corrected, but that's how it appears.
 

pink poodle

Our man isn't in the West
I was thinking more national parks kind of restrictions...you know the kind that make heaps of sense. Like "we know you have bulldozed a 5km long 50m wide run through our pristine young growth once was stopped by logging forest reserve, but no way on hell can you clear a bike trail that weaves within that ski run's existing boundaries...you might hurt the last remaining breeding location of the last 6 megalithic Australian snow fly." Kind of stuff.


A dh track would have more potential to impact a ski run than an xc track. Australian ski fields are cumming in their pants if their base makes it to 1m for one weekend in peak season. That doesn't allow for a lot of cover of some dh trail obstacles. But I reckon that could be a good thing! Some drops, rollers, and jumps scattered across the run would be ace.
 

Ackland

Eats Squid
Can't see what restrictions...DH tracks have been there and running since the 80's. They have zero impact on the snow season and infrastructure. Baw Baw is a smaller hill with only the one actual DH track, yet they got their shit together and run their own shuttles over summer.
Mirimbah servo/cafe at the base of Buller used to run private shuttles...they seem to have been pushed out by Blue Dirt, who now seem to not be interested in running a decent shuttle service either (I have some beefs with BD's monopoly aside from Buller). If I've got this wrong, happy to be corrected, but that's how it appears.
There are weird arrangements.
Separate entities run the lifts, the ski runs and Bike Buller.

There are ongoing arguments about where the trails cross ski runs (same happens at Thredbo) as the benched areas need deeper snow coverage to run in winter

^As per the pink fella
 

moorey

Nothing is better than a tomato
At Buller, (no doubt by design), the DH tracks really don't impact the ski runs. It's through tight tree sections, and where it crosses over the ski runs, its essentially off camber transitions to the other side. At the bottom of international, there's a couple of dirt mounds off the side, used as bike jumps, but I don't even think this part is used as a ski run? Can't be sure, haven't boarded there in 15+ years.

Either way, its a shit situation, and the Mountain is going to die a quick death if its's relying on the snow season to support it.
 

moorey

Nothing is better than a tomato
LTIH....PayPal when you have an issue.
They charged me twice for the one purchase from CRC. Messaged them every day for last 3 days, they say they will respond within a few hours...never did.
Rang them, waited ages, they offered a callback service as they were busy. They eventually call back, I explain the situation, they acknowledge they've charged me twice erroneously, and tell me I have to contact my bank. I point out that its a PayPal issue, and the bank won't help me, she keeps saying to contact my bank to resolve it. My inner Karen starts to bubble up, and I ask if there is someone else I can talk to about this?

She hangs up.
Ok, another 45 minute wait, and a frustrating 20 minute attempt to rectify, that I'm not confident will work. I've been charged the $204 twice, both have been debited from my account over a week ago, and PayPay want me to pay a 3rd time to clear up the matter, then guarantee that within 5 working days, they will credit the second 2 payments back to me, clearing up the matter....one to clear a debt (which I shouldn't have,and one to credit me my $204.
Am I the only one WTF'ing over the handling of their mistake?
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pink poodle

Our man isn't in the West
At Buller, (no doubt by design), the DH tracks really don't impact the ski runs. It's through tight tree sections, and where it crosses over the ski runs, its essentially off camber transitions to the other side. At the bottom of international, there's a couple of dirt mounds off the side, used as bike jumps, but I don't even think this part is used as a ski run? Can't be sure, haven't boarded there in 15+ years.

Either way, its a shit situation, and the Mountain is going to die a quick death if its's relying on the snow season to support it.
Australia's snow season is small market with a (most likely) short future. Go bikes!
 

beeb

Professional ball watcher
Ok, another 45 minute wait, and a frustrating 20 minute attempt to rectify, that I'm not confident will work. I've been charged the $204 twice, both have been debited from my account over a week ago, and PayPay want me to pay a 3rd time to clear up the matter, then guarantee that within 5 working days, they will credit the second 2 payments back to me, clearing up the matter....one to clear a debt (which I shouldn't have,and one to credit me my $204.
Am I the only one WTF'ing over the handling of their mistake?View attachment 368123View attachment 368124View attachment 368125
Nope, that's fucked. Should be a straight refund on the double-charge. Any error is on their side, so they should be resolving it.
 

moorey

Nothing is better than a tomato
Cheers, can't see any possible reason why it wouldn't be. Ima wait till tomorrow which is the 5 day business period that may bring a refund...but may not. He really didn't seem to know what was happening either. While i'm at it, cuss the 3-5 working day thing. It's an electronic bank transfer...the internet doesn't shut down Friday arvo and fire up again Monday....or does it.....
 

pink poodle

Our man isn't in the West
Cheers, can't see any possible reason why it wouldn't be. Ima wait till tomorrow which is the 5 day business period that may bring a refund...but may not. He really didn't seem to know what was happening either. While i'm at it, cuss the 3-5 working day thing. It's an electronic bank transfer...the internet doesn't shut down Friday arvo and fire up again Monday....or does it.....
"Banks" like to take your money out of your account, hold I for a little while as if it is their own, make a micro profit, then and it on.
 

moorey

Nothing is better than a tomato
"Banks" like to take your money out of your account, hold I for a little while as if it is their own, make a micro profit, then and it on.
They do...and I assume PayPal also do. I told him as much, but he assured me they didn't, despite the fact they've had my money since 5th.
 

Mr Crudley

Wheel size expert
They do...and I assume PayPal also do. I told him as much, but he assured me they didn't, despite the fact they've had my money since 5th.
It does sound like something pretty straightforward that they should be able to fix immediately.
CRC have jumped the shark sometime ago and this is probably part of the extended decline unfortunately. They used to be a great operation.
 

moorey

Nothing is better than a tomato
It does sound like something pretty straightforward that they should be able to fix immediately.
CRC have jumped the shark sometime ago and this is probably part of the extended decline unfortunately. They used to be a great operation.
I didn’t see it as a CRC thing....maybe it was....looked like PayPals. CRC hadn’t taken the second payment, it was sitting with PayPal.
 

Mr Crudley

Wheel size expert
I didn’t see it as a CRC thing....maybe it was....looked like PayPals. CRC hadn’t taken the second payment, it was sitting with PayPal.
Ah, Ok. I like to run off and blame the first one I can straight up.

PayPal haven't been too bad to deal with for me. Give their friendly call centre a call.
 

moorey

Nothing is better than a tomato
I say fire off a or man bukaki load of Karen rage! Spray it everywhere and demand a sponsorship.
You mean how like the first time, she immediately hung up on me when I asked if I could speak to someone else? She’s on minimum pay on the other side of the world (Nebraska), they’ll just hang up and make me spend 45 min waiting again
 

pink poodle

Our man isn't in the West
You mean how like the first time, she immediately hung up on me when I asked if I could speak to someone else? She’s on minimum pay on the other side of the world (Nebraska), they’ll just hang up and make me spend 45 min waiting again
Nooooooooo....you have social media. Then call up radio national, Jonesy, lawesy, ray Martin, that other guy. You gotta go big! In this slow news era you could get some front page telegraph coverage. Are you holding an anti PayPal rally? It's time. I probably should have said a smart Karen.
 

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