beeb
cheese-muffled mooo
Super Boost is the real evil here, such a stupid "standard".
'Yeah, it's so there's more tyre clearance and stiffness in the rear end...' (Proceeds to bend chainstays and seatstays like bananas to create heel clearance)
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'Yeah, it's so there's more tyre clearance and stiffness in the rear end...' (Proceeds to bend chainstays and seatstays like bananas to create heel clearance)
Asininedrivel
Likes bikes and dirt and has no idea why
Hmmmm... would appear to be a bit of a reverse to most new iterations which are usually MOAR BURLY.
Quicky scan of that review implies it's lighter and more agile than its predecessor.
Asininedrivel
Likes bikes and dirt and has no idea why
I see you don't hang out in enough bro forums. Everything there needs to be superboost cus of the mad tyre rub I'm getting from my 2.4s on the stays due to my mad roost flex in every corner including the car park test.Super Boost is the real evil here, such a stupid "standard".
'Yeah, it's so there's more tyre clearance and stiffness in the rear end...' (Proceeds to bend chainstays and seatstays like bananas to create heel clearance)
157 is not a new standard...was around before boost 148. Superboost is just 157 pretty much. Also, the previous version of this bike (with superboost rear) made other similar bikes iv'e owned and ridden like the camber, scott spark, stumpjumper st feel like wet noodles. How much of that is down to the rear hub spacing I'm not sure.
Yea overall I feel Boost 148 is the stupid standard that never should have happened.
beeb
cheese-muffled mooo
I don't think Boost 148 was worthwhile either, but FFS we just got to the point where nearly everything had settled on boost and now the industry is trying to push a new standard again.
ozzybmx
Beta brasses baby
Originally Chris Cocalis said that's where we would end up without increasing BB width and went straight there, Divinci and knolly joined him, now Evil is at 157mm.
In a couple of years, they will all be on the bandwagon.
I really wanted a set of I9 Hydras but (a bit covid related too) went DT350 with a cheap microspline freehub. Didn't want another set of $1000 hubs going the same as my 135/142 Chris Kings.
Chris still insists press fit is better than a threaded BB. It does have some benefits from an engineering perspective but the ease of use of a threaded BB cannot be beat.
Not owned a boost bike but my 142 seems plenty stiff to me.
ozzybmx
Beta brasses baby
First time you get a creak on a bike with a PF BB... Arrrgghhhh fckn BB, regardless of what it actually is
I've noticed no real difference, my Santa Cruz and current HT were/are both 148, no different than the bikes before them.
HamboCairns
Let you google that for me
A standard I can get behind is the SRAM universal hangar.
The Dude
Likes Dirt
i think the biggest benefit was going from the spindly quick release to bolt up rears. That made a big difference then it’s just been tiny changes since. Still miffed at the loss of 20mm front fork axles....First time you get a creak on a bike with a PF BB... Arrrgghhhh fckn BB, regardless of what it actually is
I've noticed no real difference, my Santa Cruz and current HT were/are both 148, no different than the bikes before them.
Ultra Lord
Hurts. Requires Money. And is nerdy.
Superboost be damned I’d run one if I wasn’t priced out. Similar to a Ripley but a little burlier, the build with dpx2 and 140mm 36’s would be an absolute hoot around here.
Mr Crudley
Wheel size expert
Only time will tell. Not like it wasn't mentioned before for previous 'standards'.It's always been a bike that is caught inbetween. Maybe this iteration could finally nail things.
Although all of the above mentioned things
I get the hub conversion / problem solvers folks are clapping like crazy.
cammas
Seamstress
Wasn’t that Shimano and Fox ganging up on SRAM? Now aren’t Fox going to 20mm
Even my first Salsa had a solid front end with 20mm axle without a tapered head tube and all that jazz.
Pretty much. Not sure if Fox are going 20mm but wouldn’t surprise me.
https://nsmb.com/articles/3729-15mm-axles-are-here-to-stay/
https://nsmb.com/articles/deviate-cycles-release-highlander-150/
@Tubbsy your Highlander is 150 isn’t it?
@Tubbsy your Highlander is 150 isn’t it?
No I have a 140. But you can buy the longer travel linkage online.
Asininedrivel
Likes bikes and dirt and has no idea why
All respect to Cocalis but I reckon if Superboost was the thing, we'd be there by now. Not enough manufacturers have embraced it. By contrast 148 went from a Trek curiosity to the default in less than 2 years.
At the moment it's just a frustrating middle ground imo - the new Wreckoning would probably be top of the list for my next bike (mate has one and loves it), but I've already got a set of hubs I want to use...
To resolve the packaging issues @beeb mentioned, we'd need to see a wider bb / crank standard (and some kind of associated q factor thingy).