Newly Released Bikes General

Probably starts at $45k for the entry level.

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I think bike companies have just priced themselves out of their core market.

The $10-20k dentist porsche owner can always afford the top of the range regardless of the price. But the middle of the range owner isn't looking to spend $6-10k on a mtb unless its for an ebike. Then for an okay entry level mtb it's $3-4k on sale plus gear which is way out of reach and unrealistic to test out whether or not you like a sport, nor attainable for the uni student who has the fitness and youth to enjoy it.

They saw people starting to spend big on ebikes and combined with bored covid shoppers they then wrongly thought there was a correlation to how expensive that means they can then make their normal bikes. In summary, I look forward to more $4k yeti's.
 
There have been $20k regular bikes around for 5-6 years now, Spech, Giant, Pivot, Scott and others then the smaller companies like Actofive etc

I know a few on S-Works Evos, nice bikes but those who buy from Spech regularly get looked after.
Yep the rich can always afford it, but I think it's the other 2 groups (the core majority of buyers) that won't come along for the ride.
 
I'm sure the new Stumpjumper is great but there's no way I'd pay that when the Canyon Spectral exists -

 
I'm sure the new Stumpjumper is great but there's no way I'd pay that when the Canyon Spectral exists -


While I know there is an element of bias given you ride a Canyon, I find it hard to disagree with the spec for the price, and the number of decent reviews knocking about
 
Interestingly, the Stumpjumper 15 has returned to a 30.9mm seatpost from 34.9 whereas the Canyon Spectral has taken the opposite journey!
 
Orange seem to have got their filing in order and have now released their 2025 file storage systems

What a missed opportunity. A company that has already been on the ropes with their niche designs, could have revamped the range to fill the void left by Nukeproof, then appeal to all.
Headstrong decision going with the traditional Orange look could send them packing for good.
 
What a missed opportunity. A company that has already been on the ropes with their niche designs, could have revamped the range to fill the void left by Nukeproof, then appeal to all.
Headstrong decision going with the traditional Orange look could send them packing for good.
It's not even their traditional look in the cae of the Stage - it looks more like two broken frames from the warranty bin welded together.
 
"Fuck me they're ugly bikes". :D

Thought Specialized were out of touch with their $20k carbon race machines. Along comes Orange, back from the brink of bankruptcy with an ugly $20k eccentric alu eeb and the UK average wage 2.5 times less than ours, coupled with a country financially on its knees. Never mind the market confined to a small crowd of UK fanbois and a few oddballs dotted around the world :oops:

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Single Pivot is OK.
I have an SC one, but they make the junction look so ugly and industrial , surely they could have someone on a grinder smoothing the welds ?

I do like the use if the Union Jack in the swingarm just above the pivot, that's really neat.
 
The most confusing thing about the Orange is I'm genuinely not sure which ones are eebs and which ones aren't...
It's not that obvious from side on.

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I'm also in the camp of not minding the looks, although being from Yorkshire there were quite a few knocking around when I grew up
 
being from Yorkshire there were quite a few knocking around when I grew up

We'll save you from the oddballs and put you in the UK Fanbois crowd ;)

My good mate here, also from Yorkshire has a Clockwork for his hardtail.

They certainly haven't learned from their hiccup, still producing 34 different models of frames and many multiples of that in versions, S, Evo, Pro, Factory...
 
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