fatboyonabike
Captain oblivious
surely that paint is structural enough? the welding is just there as a formalityWelds should never run crossways on a longitudinal member, it creates a stress riser and will cause it to crack and fail.
surely that paint is structural enough? the welding is just there as a formalityWelds should never run crossways on a longitudinal member, it creates a stress riser and will cause it to crack and fail.
You bought an Orange!
I saw those kits and in the photos it looks like the hoops that hold the front wheel make it sit almost upright. Most of the vert. racks have the wheels on an angle so that you minimise handlebar interference and can put your bikes closer together...I dropped the cash on one of these in the week
basically a kit with the main parts all laser cut ready to put together and then you paint
still requires the main box tubing...but at least I can be comfortable in the quality of the welds once completed
Seem ok here -I saw those kits and in the photos it looks like the hoops that hold the front wheel make it sit almost upright. Most of the vert. racks have the wheels on an angle so that you minimise handlebar interference and can put your bikes closer together...
Huh? The structural standard dissuades welding across a tension member for temporary attachments though that is for other reasons. How pray tell do you join something? Butt welds are fine and a joggle weld with the horizontal section (in this case) on the neutral axis is fine. That weld is the cap over a root run. Both sides single vee prepped and the undercut where it appeared filled... not to mention that is an unbraked box trailer with a gvm of 750kg. I did the calcs when I first built it, stress was just about...Welds should never run crossways on a longitudinal member, it creates a stress riser and will cause it to crack and fail.
Yep, look fine there, maybe just the angle of the photo that I saw on FB.Seem ok here -
I don't think there's a 5-6 bike upright on the market that doesn't at least need placement considered to stop potential rubbing. Too angled, bars can touch TT, not enough, bars can touch bars. On the singletrail, if you have all identical bikes, you could have issues. They work best if you load biggest/stackest to smallest/steepest.Yep, look fine there, maybe just the angle of the photo that I saw on FB.
I haven't yet seen a photo looking directly at the rear of the car.
XL's or DH bikes to the leftI don't think there's a 5-6 bike upright on the market that doesn't at least need placement considered to stop potential rubbing. Too angled, bars can touch TT, not enough, bars can touch bars. On the singletrail, if you have all identical bikes, you could have issues. They work best if you load biggest/stackest to smallest/steepest.
I see plenty of tailgate pads, but if you want to carry anything else they are a bit of a pain.Why does no-one use Tailgate pads anymore?
Tailgate pad rubbed the cuss out of my bikes, nothing touches on my upright rack.flamesuit on
Why does no-one use Tailgate pads anymore? The amount of utes I see these days with $1500+ bike racks hanging off the back is astounding. So many of them need additional strapping and padding to prevent movement and damage and not to mention the failures. So many stories about bikes hitting the bitumen at Highway speeds.
I'm finally in a position to purchase a ute again and have been looking at racks, but just can't see a reason why I would need one? For many, many years I never had a problem with piling up 5 bikes, blokes and a weekends worth of gear into the back of the triton with the bikes hanging over the tailgate. A camping family holiday would be a different story obviously.
Tailgate pad rubbed the cuss out of my bikes, nothing touches on my upright rack.
Your experience (and many like yours) is a bigger deterrent than "rubbing" which I personally never had an issue with. Each to their own I know but hearing this sought of thing, constantly, has put me off.as I've even had premium quality professional racks crack at a weld with the constant weight of bikes. He went off on his engineering and flat pack experience, and that most rack builders are essentially cowboys. I reiterated I wasn't questioning his engineering, just the welding skills of the average guy buying them then using a $50 Supercheap welder to assemble it. I said I'd had a premium rack snap a few years back, and the company replaced and fixed the bikes.
Probably also dependant on the amount of time in there and the terrain being driven on. Was always the crown that lost its paint after a while.Your experience (and many like yours) is a bigger deterrent than "rubbing" which I personally never had an issue with. Each to their own I know but hearing this sought of thing, constantly, has put me off.
This is what I am talking about. any part of the draw bar should not have welds that run across the frame member, they should run inline with the beam. This goes for up near the tow hitch as well.Huh? The structural standard dissuades welding across a tension member for temporary attachments though that is for other reasons. How pray tell do you join something? Butt welds are fine and a joggle weld with the horizontal section (in this case) on the neutral axis is fine. That weld is the cap over a root run. Both sides single vee prepped and the undercut where it appeared filled... not to mention that is an unbraked box trailer with a gvm of 750kg. I did the calcs when I first built it, stress was just about...
fuck all.
Why does no-one use Tailgate pads anymore?
Tailgate pads are the best thing for DH bikes with dual crowns. The upper stanchion contacts the frame via bumpstop and wedges the tyre against the pad. Only points of contact are the tyre and downtube. Bikes are locked in, no worries.Tailgate pad rubbed the cuss out of my bikes, nothing touches on my upright rack.
The failure @moorey was talking about wasn't a vehicle rack though and as I understand was a rarity with that brand of rack.Your experience (and many like yours) is a bigger deterrent than "rubbing" which I personally never had an issue with. Each to their own I know but hearing this sought of thing, constantly, has put me off.
Correct. And that was a total freak also. Never heard of an issue with the brand.The failure @moorey was talking about wasn't a vehicle rack though and as I understand was a rarity with that brand of rack.
That’s interesting, the wheels are jammed into the hoops rather than resting on the top bar…Seem ok here -