I wouldn’t stress about the PID, you will learn quickly how to ride the temps.. Either of these machines will take a fair few goes to pull a good shot, make sure you get a bag of cheap beans to waste while dialing everything in.I was originally drawn to the Rancilio but the Lilit comes with a factory PID for about the same price. Also a quicker warm-up (10 mins vs 30 mins).
I'll probably get analysis paralysis between models but at the end of the day they both make coffee I guess lol. Keep the suggestions coming!
Also I checked out that Mazzer Mini grinder but even Jet-black recommends in their description that for that price you'd be better off with a Lelit doserless or equivalent due to electronic metering. I'm guessing that just takes one more bit of guesswork out of things?
Yeah I'm pretty sure I'm overthinking it. I'll aim to spend about as much on the grinder as the machine, and spend a bunch of time experimenting with the grind and trying to get it dialled in.I wouldn’t stress about the PID, you will learn quickly how to ride the temps.. Either of these machines will take a fair few goes to pull a good shot, make sure you get a bag of cheap beans to waste while dialing everything in.
Had plenty of awful shots from both cheap and expensive machines, the grind matters the most followed by the freshness of the beans.
Mazzer make good grinders. But having to use that fucking lever to sweep out coffee grinds into your portable filter gets old really fast. It's a lot more grinder than people need at home as well. The mini shows up a lot in shit cafes/bakeries etc where tradies line up for a pie and caffeine. It's cheap and reliable.I was originally drawn to the Rancilio but the Lilit comes with a factory PID for about the same price. Also a quicker warm-up (10 mins vs 30 mins).
I'll probably get analysis paralysis between models but at the end of the day they both make coffee I guess lol. Keep the suggestions coming!
Also I checked out that Mazzer Mini grinder but even Jet-black recommends in their description that for that price you'd be better off with a Lelit doserless or equivalent due to electronic metering. I'm guessing that just takes one more bit of guesswork out of things?
Shouldn’t have to pay that much for a domestic grinder..Yeah I'm pretty sure I'm overthinking it. I'll aim to spend about as much on the grinder as the machine, and spend a bunch of time experimenting with the grind and trying to get it dialled in.
Now, to go and overthink it some more
Is that an iPad hanging off a coffee machine? Maybe my kids would make me a coffee !DE1PRO
Yeah its a Samsung tablet that allows you to tweak temperature and pressure profile of each shot.Is that an iPad hanging off a coffee machine? Maybe my kids would make me a coffee !
When I had the cafe I bought a Pullman tamper. It came with a set of baskets for my machine and was machined to fit those baskets perfectly. It was a thing of beauty, in both a tactile and visual sense.and to use my lovely Jarrah 58mm Pullman tamper again.
Nice setup, the Silvia doesn’t rust out though. Mine is donkey’s arse old just replaced the boiler seal and zero sign of rust except for under the drip tray..I've got a Lelit PL41TEMD and Compak A8 (the F8s unloved brother) which I picked up secondhand but in good condition and had it serviced. Total cost was $1800 from memory and its pretty much the best home setup you can get for less than $5000.
Because its a small copper single boiler it heats up quick, boils steam quick and water quality is irrelevant. I can have a coffee ready to drink in 5 minutes from the machine being turned on by steaming the milk first and letting the portafilter heat up while I do the milk. Its also stainless steel so won't rust out like a Silvia, and has a factory PID. The only real down side is the 57mm portafilter, which is non standard.
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I messed around with a few tampers, other than hand feel do they make much difference? Seems to me that the grind and dosing affects the shot way more than the tamp pressure, evenness?When I had the cafe I bought a Pullman tamper. It came with a set of baskets for my machine and was machined to fit those baskets perfectly. It was a thing of beauty, in both a tactile and visual sense.
Get a good one that feels nice in the hand. You're going to use it a lot. I've got a cobra tamper at home. I love it. I'd hate to use it at work.I messed around with a few tampers, other than hand feel do they make much difference? Seems to me that the grind and dosing affects the shot way more than the tamp pressure, evenness?
Pffft the DE1PRO is cheaper does proper pressure profiling AND does temp profiling. Also no boiler, so doesn't need filtered water.Get a good one that feels nice in the hand. You're going to use it a lot. I've got a cobra tamper at home. I love it. I'd hate to use it at work.
Someone has been using money for kindling again @Oddjob...it sounds like you need to up your game proper. The strada is a great machine and this single version is perfect for home operators.
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Of course you'll never get it perfect without a little help...time to hang the jara work of art up and get a puck press. Say good bye to a sore shoulder after hundreds of shots!
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